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Post by Guest on Tue 07 Jan 2014, 6:08 pm

So yeah, I'm doing this again. 

I'm reading the WorldWar series by Harry Turtledove. It's an alternate history where reptilian aliens invade Earth in 1942. It's a gritty in-depth book series and I enjoy it alot. Goes into the brutal details of war quite a lot and takes a hard look at human morality. Anyway, I wanted an RP based on this. I felt the Eastern Front was a good place to start. According to maps I saw of the Eastern front and from what I read, the Lizards as the humans call them landed May-July 1942. One of the characters, Heinrich Jaeger was somewhere south of Kharkov at the time. The German counter offensive in spring/summer 1942 was around there in May-July.


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You get the idea. We have a setting.

Germans are still using Panzerkampfwagen III Asuf. J's with the 5 cm Kwk 39 along with the Panzerkampfwagen IV Asuf. C and Asuf. D with the stubby barrel. There would likely be some Panzerkampfwagen II's also, as recon elements.

Russians are using the innovative T-34 and the strong KV-1 along with T-70's and T-60's.

TL;DR, early WW2 shit.

Anyway first part of rp would be right before the aliens show up. Players will be fighting a guerilla war against the lizards at first. Both Russians and Germans are welcome. Not sure about characters who are members of The Race as they call themselves. But we'll see.

Oh and it's hard sci-fi. The alien craft travel at less than light speed. They use bullets, bombs, and nukes. No fancy lasers, shields, or particle death beams. Though, they're squeamish about using nukes; there is a colonization fleet behind them.

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Post by Mr One on Tue 07 Jan 2014, 9:12 pm

This most certainly seems interesting. WW2 and aliens.. what's not to love?
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Post by Guest on Tue 07 Jan 2014, 9:45 pm

Anyone else?

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Post by Guest on Wed 08 Jan 2014, 5:51 pm

The aliens refer to themselves as "The Race" and their homeworld called "Home" orbits Tau Ceti and is the second planet from the star. Home orbits the star in half the time Earth does around Sol. Therefore, their years are half as long. "Home" is a desert world with small seas and few islands. They had explored the entire world 75,000 Earth years ago. Nuclear technology was discovered around this time. By 50,000 Earth years the entire planet was under one banner. They conquered a planet populated by the Rabotevs 14,000 Earth years ago. The Hallessi were conquered on another world 5,000 human years ago. 

They have a slow and ponderous history.  Steadiness and stability are more important than speed and innovation in their society. New concepts are introduced to Race society gradually over a period of centuries so as to prevent societal instability. Technological progress proceeds very slowly, on the scale of thousands of years. A single dynasty has ruled their empire for 50,000 years. The races they conquered were like minded.

In 1141 their probe found Earth. They prepared an invasion for 800 years. The invasion fleet is sent on a 20 Earth years journey to the Sol system, which they call Tosev. Earth is Tosev III. Therefore they call humans Tosevites. Anyway they detect radio signals on the way in 1941. They are shocked humans advanced so fast in 800 years. They expected us to be like minded and still be in a primitive state. 

The invasion goes ahead in May 1942. Nuclear weapons are launched and detonated high in the atmosphere. However, humans do not have silicon computer chips yet. So the EMP has no effect. Still the invasion goes ahead. Landings are made in Poland, Florida, Illinois, Idaho, New York, Mongolia, Ukraine, Siberia, Spain, South America, and Africa.

Also; The aliens are patriarchial. The invasion fleet is completely made up of males, as females can't be soldiers. All the soldiers are members of The Race; Rabotevs and Hallessi aren't allowed in the military. A colonization fleet is set to arrive 20 years after the invasion fleet's arrival.

They use simple terms for military things; Troopcarriers, killercraft, landcruisers, etc.

Biology:

Wikipedia wrote:Apparently evolved from predatory ancestors, members of the Race are physically shorter in height than humans and have numerous lizard-like traits. Their skin is brown and scaly, often decorated with body paint which becomes more elaborate in higher ranking individuals. Their eyes are segmented like a chameleon's[2] and have nictitating membranes, an adaptation to the desert climate of their homeworld.[1] They have bifurcated tongues and vestigial tail stumps. They have no tear ducts.[1]Though they have a characteristic reptilian dislike of low temperatures, they are warm blooded as shown by their breath fogging in Earth's winter.[2] Their wrist bones pivot off one bone rather than two, they have two bones in their upper arms and one in their lower arms (the opposite of humans), and their ribcages are described as resembling latticework.[1] Though primarily carnivorous, as shown by their specialized teeth, the Race can process vegetation. They can also drink and process alcoholic beverages.[1] They have a revulsion to eating eggs, due to the similarities to their own life cycle.[1] Ginger has effects on the Race similar to those of cocaine on humans[2] and also sends females into oestrus.
Reproduction:

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Members of The Race are seasonal breeders, and reproduce once a year at a specific time when females enter oestrus. There is no monogamy, and males play no part in the raising of young. Hatchlings are born with an egg tooth, and are essentially miniature versions of the adults. They do not vocalise as frequently as human children unless urged to do so, a defence mechanism against predators.[3] Unlike human babies who crave physical contact, Race hatchlings instinctively avoid anything larger than themselves.[4] At the age of 3 months, Race hatchlings become predatory in nature and have to be taught not to attack their own kind.[3] Due to their considerably greater physiological development and self-reliance at birth, cases of surviving feral children are much more common in the history of The Race than in that of humans.[3]
Society:

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Due to their seasonal breeding cycle, the Race does not form nuclear family units the way humans do. Given that breeding is just a biological imperative during mating season, they also don't form bonds of romantic love between males and females, so human literature and art about romantic love strikes them as perverse. They are still quite capable of loyalty and affection, but in the Race bonds of friendship are as strong as romantic or family bonds in humans. The result of this is that generational cohorts in the Race are much more internally unified, and much more opposed to other generations, than in humans. Younger and older generations don't get along very well, because they have no parent-child bonds, but Race members of the same age group tend to get along very well. One of the greatest and most celebrated works of Race literature - which due to a cosmic coincidence is titled Gone With the Wind in their language - is about two close friends who are separated and the loss they feel.

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Post by Mr One on Wed 08 Jan 2014, 8:11 pm

Yep definitely interesting.
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Post by Guest on Wed 08 Jan 2014, 8:28 pm

Yeah, The Race is a pretty original alien species in my opinion. They're completely different from humans. Most aliens are usually human like in sci-fi......

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Post by Mr One on Thu 09 Jan 2014, 3:08 pm

So many aliens floatin around my head :p Now then WE NEED MOAR PEEPS!
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Re: Alternate history ww2 eastern front sci fi

Post by Guest on Thu 09 Jan 2014, 8:53 pm

I have one simple question...
Do I have a tank? (Specificly Pz IV Ausf F2, 1942, temporary varient of Ausf F prior to becoming Ausf G)

Outside of that, this seems MORE then interesting. enough so I'd join depending on what player roles there are available.

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Post by Guest on Thu 09 Jan 2014, 9:38 pm

Yeah you can have the F2. I might just join you with a tank of my own...

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Post by Guest on Fri 10 Jan 2014, 12:12 pm

Just wanting to clarify something before I make a choice.

In this setting what is the likelyness of having a working aircraft, and what are the chances of it being a valid vehicle in this setting?  I'm thinking the Russian planes primarily but perhaps it'll answer other people's queries too.

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Post by Guest on Fri 10 Jan 2014, 4:55 pm

You'll probably get shot down in an aircraft. But other than that aircraft are valid vehicles. Before the lizards had munition shortages later in the war, human planes got shot down in droves due to air-to-air missiles. Anyway, in 1942 the Red Air Force had about 3,000 planes and the Luftwaffe had 4,100. So, before the Invasion, having a working plane isn't unreasonable. But after? Not so much. Pilots usually didn't live long against Killercraft. Though, low flying planes like the Polikarpov U-2 Kukuruznik could get through and return back to base afterwards.

So if you're a Russian pilot that's your best bet. On another note, interestingly, female pilots flew for the Red Air Force in U-2's. They flew at night and strafed Germans in real life. The U-2 could have machine guns and small bombs. It had a simple engine and wooden construction. It was very easy to repair and was stealthy. Since it could fly very slowly it could land on small runways, such as forest clearings. In the book they are used to transport VIPs and small amounts of supplies, as well as ground attack.

So if you're serious about being a pilot, you could do it.

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Name:
Age:
Gender:
Race: (human, or The Race)
Faction: (Germany, Russia, The Race, etc)
Physical Appearance:
Clothing Appearance: 
Rank:
Role: (infantry, tank commander, pilot, etc)
Bio: (optional)

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Post by Mr One on Fri 17 Jan 2014, 7:59 am

Thinking of CS now
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